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Hearts of Gold – Ep139 Hailey Thomas

Hearts of Gold – Ep139 Hailey Thomas

[00:00:00] Walter: The hearts of gold podcast is brought to you by the grow and share network produced by off the Walter media.

[00:00:11] Sheryl: Welcome to hearts of gold. Today we have Hailey with us. Can you tell us about your girl scout gold award project?

[00:00:17] Hailey: Okay. So my girl scout gold award project is mainly about protecstrians it’s about protection, safety, and just.

[00:00:26] Overall, being able to stay aware of your surroundings and the dangers that could lurk around you. It mainly kind of started basically from. Noticing people around me in their own social media, kind of always seeing people kind of locked into their phones, never really paying attention to what was happening around them.

[00:00:46] And since I’m a native Houstonian in Houston, Texas, it gets pretty dangerous, especially with traffic with a lot of people being around. And so I noticed that it needed to be. to be said that there needed to be more awareness about pedestrian safety as far as texting while walking or just distracted walking.

[00:01:06] And so that’s kind of what my project is about talking to especially younger students and driving school and just raising awareness about distracted walking.

[00:01:15] Sheryl: You mentioned how you have observed this in your hometown. What made the connection for you that identified that this matched your passion in general?

[00:01:26] Hailey: Mainly because I had seen a lot of previous Girl Scout Gold Awards talking about distracted driving, but I never really saw anybody talking about distracted walking, especially because walkable cities are being a really hot topic right now. And especially with a lot of commuters just driving around, seeing how many people are walking around, but, like, locked into their phones, it kind of made me just want to be able to.

[00:01:50] Raise awareness. And I feel like, especially with the younger generations, especially Gen Z and Gen Alpha, I felt like it was important for me to be able to talk to them about the dangers. Because when I went to driving school, when I was 14, they would always show us like the videos and the movies about like drinking while intoxicated or driving while intoxicated and just being able to stay safe while driving.

[00:02:12] But I never really saw anyone making videos for pedestrians, like who were commuting by walking. And I just wanted to be able to raise awareness so that students knew that not only are there dangers for driving, but there are also dangers for walking. So it’s important to stay aware of your surroundings and kind of just be able to tune out whatever’s on your phone, save it for later.

[00:02:34] Cause it’s not that important. It’s your life is more important, quite frankly.

[00:02:39] Sheryl: What are some of the pieces that you shared with your audience during your project?

[00:02:44] Hailey: On my website, there’s a little, like, brochure that kind of shows, like, the statistics and the information about texting and just being distracted while walking when doing the research for the project.

[00:02:56] I actually had no idea about the information and that people actually, there are statistics and, like, actual data that people have collected about distracted while walking. And I was able to share my PSA that I created. With the students and just be able to talk to them and actually show them that this is an actual issue that people need to know more about.

[00:03:17] Because, like I said, there’s so many distracted while driving videos and information, but distracted while walking is also a danger that people need to be aware about.

[00:03:28] Sheryl: Who is on your team and how did they help you?

[00:03:30] Hailey: I worked on my project a little bit more near coven. Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to meet all the members of my team and really because their parents were very strict about because it was like, and so I was able to work with a video creator and she was my gold award advisor.

[00:03:50] And we were able to go into downtown and, like, shoot a small video and me with my mom, she was able to help me, like, kind of shoot footage around my school around, like, the Metro rail. And I was able to get in contact with some of the Houston police department, along with some people around the Metro rail department to be able to help kind of spread the awareness.

[00:04:12] And I was also able to talk a little bit with the Silver Lake driving school. To be able to have the post my PSA to kind of help other students who were at the driving school class at the time to be able to kind of spread that awareness as well. So it was mainly like my mom and then 1 of my goals of our advisors who helped me do the PSA for the project.

[00:04:37] And then we, along with a few of my group members, we helped do the research and create, I guess, the data and the website and the brochure and kind of edit the video. And then along with. A few representatives from the HPD and the metro rail and the silver, like driving school, I was able to get that kind of, I guess, the, my voice heard and be able to get actual trustworthy.

[00:05:01] I guess, representatives to be able to spread awareness as well.

[00:05:05] Sheryl: You mentioned your project advisor had video skills. A question that Girl Scouts, as they approach the Gold Award, ask a lot is, who should my project advisor be? And oftentimes, the feedback that they’re given is a subject matter expert. And in your case, that would be somebody who maybe.

[00:05:28] Has done some of that data analysis on pedestrian, patextrian and such. In your case, you used a video. I often say, where is your weak point? And then that’s where probably your project advisor should step in. Can you talk to us a little bit about how, although your project advisor wasn’t there, A subject matter expert, they had unique skills that were very important to your project and how that major project stronger and better.

[00:05:59] Hailey: Yeah. So, actually, I had no idea who I wanted to be my gold award advisor. At 1st. I really just thought that my goal to work mentor and my advisor with the same person. Until I kind of went along with my go to work mentor, and she’s like, Oh, you should have an advisor to kind of help you kind of guide you through your project and wherever, you know, you kind of can’t do something yourself.

[00:06:19] Kind of like how you were saying, just have someone be that. Person to kind of handle, which you don’t really understand. And so I feel like finding a gold award advisor who one is able to kind of I guess more of an authority figure who is able to kind of lead the group in a way to be able to advise everyone and not really kind of let you, as you are the leader, kind of like take.

[00:06:43] Responsibility for yourself, but also for themselves as well, and be able to be a person that you can rely on. Usually, I would highly recommend, like, teachers, mentors, or just anyone that you can trust. That’s more of an authority figure rather than, like, your friend from, like. What are your classes and someone that’s going to be able to know a little bit more than you, which is totally.

[00:07:06] Okay. Because I feel like some people kind of get intimidated around people that know more than them, but I feel like they’re able to mentor and guide us through the project, especially if they also feel passionate about the project and what your topic is about. I feel like being able to work with someone who is going to be able to guide you through the process of, I guess, something that you’re not familiar with.

[00:07:30] And even though, like, I. Felt like myself personally, I could do the research because I do like doing research. I wasn’t incredibly, I knew that, especially going through COVID, it, it wasn’t going to be easy for me to be able to record footage or get actual, like video footage of me in the city, like, it wasn’t going to be a by myself thing, because I just knew I had someone, it would be a lot more frustrating to have to set up a tripod, go back and forth, back and forth.

[00:08:01] So, I knew having someone who had kind of the same vision as I did was going to be really a lot more productive and a lot more easier for me. Because so she had did video creation and she edited videos for years. I kind of knew that that was someone who I wanted on my team. Because that was kind of my weak point in the process in the project.

[00:08:20] It wasn’t necessarily finding research. I mean, it could get tedious, but having someone actually be. A member who would do something for a PSA, because there’s so much difficulty with trying to find out what can actually boost your project. And I had no idea what I wanted to do besides a website in the brochure.

[00:08:40] So, when my team members, they, you know. Thought I could do a PSA, because what is better than a PSA to get your voice heard and actually show people visually that stuff like this happens and what you can do to kind of be more aware. I kind of was like, okay, we can do a video and needing that person to kind of.

[00:09:00] Be the I guess, like, the producer, the director, and just be able to say, like, okay, you need a shot. Do it like this. You need a shot doing like this. And we need to do something like that. It was a little bit more productive for me because it would have been incredibly hard and incredibly difficult. To have to, like, make videos, like, on, like, train tracks by myself and, like, going in a metro rail by myself and on crosswalks by myself.

[00:09:28] So I just knew for me, being able to have a project advisor that 1 had the same vision that I did, but to also kind of knew what she was doing kind of help boost my project a little bit more because we all kind of knew what we’ve wanted. 1 But at the same time, we needed someone with a little bit more experience and a little bit more expertise to help us out.

[00:09:51] And so, when she kind of came through and explain to me what she kind of wanted for the project and the PSA are kind of. Was like, okay, that’s something that I need because it wasn’t something that I knew I could do by myself.

[00:10:05] Sheryl: I so agree with everything you just said. This show, this, the video portion of this show would not happen if I didn’t have an editor.

[00:10:14] It just would not happen. So I 100 percent agree. How did you connect with your project advisor?

[00:10:21] Hailey: Mainly because my mom had worked with her years ago and she kind of knew her. She was kind of a friend of a friend and she was looking for someone who was into video editing and. Kind of just knew how to be able to make a video and structure correctly and be able to film and shoot and be able to do different things with the video.

[00:10:42] And so, when she had reached out to my mom, she reached out to me as well, and we were able to meet at a small coffee shop and then just be able to talk about the project to what I kind of expected from it. And then we kind of bounced ideas off of each other, and then we did a little bit of shooting the same day.

[00:11:01] And so I was able to connect with her early on in the project and just be able to get the PSA. And I feel like, honestly, 1, I don’t think I would have enjoyed the process of doing the PSA. If I, if it hadn’t been without her into, I don’t think it would have been as, I guess interactive, it’ll just kind of be me walking around in the sidewalk.

[00:11:20] Cause that’s as most as I can do. So, yeah, I feel like connecting with her. Mainly through my mom and just finding her on LinkedIn, it was a lot easier for me to find someone, but also kind of like knowing someone or knowing someone who knows someone, I feel like is a better way for you to kind of find that project advisor.

[00:11:42] Sheryl: You also mentioned the confusion, which. I see lots of comments about between project advisor and your council mentor. How does your mentor help you so people can get an idea of what the difference is between those two roles?

[00:11:57] Hailey: Yeah. So at first when I wanted to start my gold award where I was a freshman in high school, my first gold award mentor said she was super busy, didn’t really have enough time to put it.

[00:12:10] Emphasis on the difference. I kind of felt a little bit lost and confused. And so 1 of my troop members, she actually get me in contact with hers because she had finished her gold award as well. And so I was able to talk with her and she kind of put like a clear emphasis on the gold. I’m your gold award mentor.

[00:12:27] And your gold award advisors, another adult who will be able to assist you with your project and be able to actually guide you through the project. Because even though the mentor kind of helps out with the more technical and logistical stuff about the gold award, I mean, the gold award itself, like, filling out the correct forms, making sure that you have your website, making sure that certain things get done.

[00:12:50] Your advisor is actually going to be the person who. Is actually working on the project with you and being able to get their hands dirty a little bit with more of the, this is what makes the project what it is. And then the mentor is someone who kind of helps you get the project done and make sure you kind of fill out the tedious paperwork and fill out mostly everything that you get done through the gold award portal.

[00:13:16] Sheryl: They kind of help you out with that. Besides COVID and the pandemic, What was your biggest challenge during your project? And how did you overcome it?

[00:13:24] Hailey: Working on it my senior year of high school and having the balance, getting ready for, to go to college, getting ready to graduate high school and working on a gold award all at the same time with with my group members and my advisor.

[00:13:39] It was a lot being able to balance Everything at the same time, and luckily, my mom, she was also able to help me out as far as, like, getting papers done and making sure that I’m kind of staying on track and with time management, being able to hold myself accountable for making sure that certain things of the project get done.

[00:13:59] And I. I felt like a lot of not necessarily imposter syndrome, but it’s like, is this really important or is this really something that people need to hear about? I just kind of felt like for a long time. It was like, is this really necessary? And I kind of had to take a step back. Kind of actually go out in Houston and, like, even now, my college camp is just driving around and walking around.

[00:14:22] I see people like, locked into their phones. And that’s when I kind of knew that people would genuinely have no idea the dangers that kind of exists when walking around distracted on your phone. So that’s when I kind of realized for myself that I was like, okay, it needs to be done. It needs to be said and.

[00:14:40] Since no one really ever talks about it, you always see like the compilation videos and stuff, but you never really hear anyone raising awareness about the dangers that could go on. And so besides kind of rethinking my project’s importance, it was really just kind of the typical high school trying to balance out.

[00:15:00] Okay. I’m about to go to college. Okay. I’m about to graduate. I need to wrap this project up. And even my mentor, she was kind of trying to help me stay focused and kind of help guide me. To be able to get the project finished and honestly, without her, I don’t think I would have finished it in enough time.

[00:15:19] And that’s why I was really grateful for her because she kind of helped keep me on track to finish the project and be able to still kind of focus on whatever I had going on at the time at high school. Do you have a favorite memory from your project? Like, editing the video, because we, whatever, like, whenever we would like, watch the videos, we would kind of laugh and giggle, but doing are kind of like, dang, that’s kind of dangerous seeing, like, how many people are genuinely kind of plugged into their phone.

[00:15:51] And it was fun to kind of bounce. I usually like. Editing process of, like, the video and kind of going along with my advisor. It was kind of fun to be able to put together a video and it was overall just kind of like a group collaboration thing, because I feel like sometimes we would have meetings and sometimes we would do stuff where we just talk, but the actual editing process was where we all kind of put together.

[00:16:15] Put our heads together to be able to make a video that will be able to portray the actual dangers while still trying to keep you plugged in. And because I feel like just me talking in the video would kind of not be the most engaging. So actually showing people that this does happen and you wouldn’t even think about it until 1 day.

[00:16:37] It happens to you. So, yeah, I think making the video and editing, it was definitely one of the more tedious, but it was pretty fun to be able to work with the whole group.

[00:16:47] Sheryl: What other Girl Scout experiences have you had that you would like to share?

[00:16:51] Hailey: I’ve been a Girl Scout for about I think I want to say 12, 13 years since I was a Daisy and I was part of Willard Avenue Baptist Church in Houston, Texas.

[00:17:04] Girl Scout troops since I was a brownie. And really over time, I just, I felt like so many girls kind of when they reached that, they got the silver award. The gold award is kind of where it’s like the all hail Mary, like, do you want to do it? Or do you want to just graduate and then be done? And so I feel like 100%.

[00:17:25] It pays off. And like, I work on my goal and torch award for my debt in my senior year, and I was able to get paid. Work on with my other troop members, my bronze and silver, but definitely I feel like volunteering and working with other girls. And I also had one of the experiences to go to the Hollywood dreaming destinations and being able to talk to the younger girls and just be able to be like volunteering and hearing from other girls.

[00:17:58] And one of the other younger girls, she actually like Told me that I inspired her to go to Hollywood and kind of get out of her comfort zone to travel because she was nervous about going out of the state without her family. But she told me that since I was brave enough to deal with myself that she felt brave enough to do it herself.

[00:18:15] And so I kind of know, like. Girl Scouts holds like a kind of special place in my heart, because I’ve been volunteering with them for years, I’ve been with them for years, and that’s why I really, one of my biggest motivations in finishing the project is just showing other young girls that it is possible to be done.

[00:18:33] And so it might be a little bit difficult, especially going through high school, but it’s definitely the pay off is definitely worth it. Like, being able to be here sitting with you talking about it and just being able to get my voice heard is probably 1 of the most fulfilling. Feelings being able to just say that I’ve completed my gold award and tell everybody that I worked on this project.

[00:18:57] And this is what, you know, you should know, because a lot of people genuinely don’t in my troop. They didn’t really finish it. So I kind of felt like inspired, especially the girls in my year. We just wanted to be able to finish our gold award to be able to. Put a positive impact on the community because I feel like that just goes back to 1 of my morals is just I want to be able to leave a positive impact on my community.

[00:19:21] And just as far as like, with charity, with volunteering and stuff like that. I kind of feel like. That’s something that I feel very strongly about, so being able to make the PSA and make a positive impact, not just on the Metro world, but on the Houston community. It was definitely also 1 of the most fulfilling things I feel like to me.

[00:19:41] And so that’s why I kind of feel like you should choose something very personal to you that you feel strongly about to be able to. work on your project and be able to serve your community because at the end of the day, as a Girl Scout, that’s what’s one of the most important things to be able to serve your community.

[00:19:57] And so that’s why I feel like completing your gold award is so important.

[00:20:00] Sheryl: For listeners that may not be as clear on some Girl Scout terms, a destination trip is a travel opportunity outside of your council. Can you tell us about your experience?

[00:20:14] Hailey: Yeah, so at the time when I was a junior in high school I wanted to be able to travel to Los Angeles, California, because they had a destinations trip, where you’d be able to learn more about kind of like the filmmaking process and be able to work with actual, like, small local actors and work with.

[00:20:35] Kind of like a film crew. We had someone with a like huge technical camera. Then we had an editor come in and he edited the video for us. But we were, each of the girls in our group, we were able to like be either the director, we had like a producer. We had like a I guess like someone holds the boom light.

[00:20:54] Like there was something for everybody. And we kind of like went through like the editing process. We went through the screenwriting process. And we kind of would, like, do the props and stuff like that, like, what we would need for everything. And overall, like, at the time, since I was an audio video student, you know, I wanted to get into, like, film production, movie production and stuff like that.

[00:21:15] I thought it was really interesting because I had never knew that girl scouts had that opportunity before, because it was always local stuff, but they never really had. Anything that really piqued my attention as far as like, what I wanted to do in the future. And so when I had seen that opportunity, I was like, I need to do that.

[00:21:33] And it was really fun. It wasn’t just like working and being in like our dorm and having to do a bunch of stuff for the movie, but we were able to. Kind of explore around Los Angeles and like the Hollywood strip and be able to like do touristy stuff around California. So it was fun, but I think definitely it was an experience that I do feel grateful for, cause I was always kind of stuck in Texas.

[00:21:55] So being able to go to the different destination ships that they have definitely kind of piques your interest about being able to travel at such a young age. And they definitely have a lot more than just, like, the U. S. they have, like, Italy trips. They have certain European trips. They have, I think, South American trips.

[00:22:16] So they kind of have a lot of stuff for different types of, topics and different types, so that kind of, like, everybody kind of gets what they want out of the trip or what they want to do. It’s not just for 1 specific thing. Like, it kind of peaks the interest of type of anyone. And so that’s why I think, like, destinations I hadn’t heard of it.

[00:22:33] And so, like, I was in high school, so I had to wish I heard about it sooner and I wish more girl scouts know about it. Because it’s just. Being able to have the opportunity to travel the world, especially right now is so it’s like it’s fulfilling, but it’s also like being able to see the world in a different type of views and just kind of looking at it a picture on of your laptop, being able to experience different cultures and different environments and stuff like that.

[00:22:56] It’s definitely really beneficial for me.

[00:22:59] Sheryl: You also mentioned that you, in your troop, you, there were multiple girls working towards their gold award. What strength do you think your troop had that not only did you continue your troop continue into high school, but also so many girls in your troop Worked on the gold award process.

[00:23:16] Hailey: We had a lot of troop leaders who were also Girl Scouts when they were younger. And some of our parents were Girl Scouts when they were younger. That also either didn’t finish their gold award or didn’t make it up to, like, ambassador senior level. Really kind of pushed us to want to be, I guess, like the Wheeler Avenue representative of we finished our gold award.

[00:23:38] So it is possible to be done because I personally believe that you have to be the person you wish you could see when you were younger. And definitely being able to be 1 of the few people who would be, I guess, a stepping stone to something a lot bigger for Wheeler Avenue was something that we all kind of as a group decided that that was something that we would want to do.

[00:24:01] And I. Definitely throughout Girl Scouts kind of felt like I’ve always wanted to be someone who I never saw before, because when I was in Girl Scouts, I really didn’t have anyone to be able to kind of be like an elder sister or someone I can look up to as far as Girl Scouting. So, I kind of knew that I wanted to be that for someone with the gold award.

[00:24:20] I was also able to mentor a younger Girl Scout and kind of show her the ropes of being a gold or Girl Scout and kind of show her along the way. And that’s what I really like. What it’s like, what the process is like, and I was able to meet with her a few times because she was also beginning her gold award.

[00:24:36] So I was able to talk to her about it. It just kind of felt like it was more of a fulfilling thing for me, because I wanted to be able to show younger girls and we wanted to be able to as a group show younger girls that it is possible and being able to be the leaders. Or I guess, like, the change makers for our troop was really what we wanted to be able to benefit from working on our code or as a group.

[00:25:03] Because. Most of us were luckily able to make it all the way past seniors and my mom, she was a troop leader. She kind of told me that not a lot of young girls make it past ambassadors. So we kind of want it to be the girls that did and the living example that we did make it, that we actually finished the Cold War too.

[00:25:24] So, yeah. What is in your future? So, I’m currently a college student. I am a senior working to get my computer science degree. I want to be able to work in data analytics. I’m still kind of considering whether or not I want to go to grad school, but I do like to work on a lot of different projects that kind of deal with data analysis, data management, stuff like that.

[00:25:47] An internship that I received last year, I’m currently going back to this semester in June. And I’m really excited because at first I was a little bit nervous, but. They were really able to help me out with a lot of not only just being able to work on the projects and the tasks that I had to take on, but just kind of bring a new beginner new grad corporate person and it was a lot different for me because I was in a state.

[00:26:14] Where I didn’t have any family, I didn’t really know anyone. And so they kind of helped me with open arms and kind of help me out. And so really just being able to work in data analytics, doing a lot more volunteering, doing a lot more sharing work with different organizations that they have around in the area and being able to, I guess.

[00:26:33] Being able to experience life outside of Texas was kind of important for me. And so that was kind of what I wanted to do after just mainly college, grad school, and then go to work, do volunteering and charity work to be able to kind of still keep that public serving, I guess you could say. Because I kind of feel like charity and volunteer work has been also a huge.

[00:26:59] Part of my life, and so I’ve always kind of felt like I wanted to keep that idea alive, but outside of, I guess, the more technical stuff, I did kind of want to start being a little bit more artistic and just kind of been in, like, a study headspace for, like, almost 3 years. And so kind of going back to my creative endeavors and stuff like that, and being able to work on projects that I feel passionate about was also something that I’ve been wanting to do for the past few years.

[00:27:24] Once I graduate college.

[00:27:26] Sheryl: You mentioned that during high school, you were really interested in the film industry. And in college, you’re about to graduate with computer science. I appreciate that you shared that you’re interested in theatrical analysis. What was that like transition?

[00:27:43] Hailey: When I was in middle school, I kind of knew that I wanted to do something with STEM and I kind of felt like like film and movie production was kind of like something that I wanted to do.

[00:27:53] On the side, because I had like friends who work in photography and stuff like that, and I really wanted to pursue something in STEM, but kind of keep that love for music in film and movie production kind of still there and being able to like work on data management and actually like visual representations of the stuff that I enjoy kind of helps keep that, I guess, spark kind of alive and still there, the creative side.

[00:28:21] Because I never really knew what I could do with film production that was tangible for me because I didn’t see people like me doing production and and stuff like that. So, I kind of felt like computer science was a way for me to be able to not only dip my foot in the stem world, but be able to also with computers, something that I do enjoy be able to kind of collect data.

[00:28:46] Make projects and stuff like that while still keeping that interest for photography, film production and movies and music and stuff like that still alive.

[00:28:55] Sheryl: What else would you like to share with the audience?

[00:28:57] Hailey: Mainly just keep going. I feel like sometimes a lot of people get a little bit intimidated with the gold award, mainly because it is a very long process and it can be kind of daunting, but being able to see the light at the end of the tunnel and being able to keep going and being able to say that I worked on this gold award.

[00:29:16] And I was not only able to work on the gold award in the project, but be able to lead a group of people, be able to leave a positive impact on my community is so much more. Fulfilling then I feel like some people know, because when I say, I have my goal to work, people kind of think of it as a small thing.

[00:29:32] But to me, it means a lot more than people think it does just because it’s hard. Doesn’t mean it’s impossible. That’s something I’ve had to tell myself over the years in college, and I’ve had my gold or mentor tell me. Just because it’s incredibly hard, or it’s a lot to do doesn’t mean it’s never been done before.

[00:29:49] And it’s not impossible. And being able to do the hard things to be able to finish the gold or project is so much more impactful than you think it is because you don’t think that it matters, but it does and whatever you choose to do with the girl scout award it just. It’s being able to see young girls have a positive impact on the community is a lot more beneficial than many people think it is.

[00:30:14] And I feel like being able to see younger girls do the things that is spread awareness and be able to do the projects that so many people kind of just kind of put to the side. It’s incredible being able to see young girls do incredibly charitable and impactful things on the community. So that’s why I feel like so many Girl Scouts There’s so many different issues and so many different project ideas that you could work on, but just keep going for something that you feel passionate about it.

[00:30:42] Just build off of that. Because once you find something that you feel like needs to be addressed or needs to be heard, you kind of feel a little bit more powerful about being able to do the gold award project. And so being able to find yourself through the project is important and being able to see that this important thing needs to be said.

[00:31:03] We’ll make the project go a lot more smoother than just kind of like, oh, is this another project that I need to do? Like find something that you’re passionate about and throughout the hard stuff, you’ll just be able to keep going. Cause you know that this needs to be addressed.

[00:31:14] Sheryl: How do you make your s’mores?

[00:31:16] Hailey: I kind of make my s’mores a little bit strange than a lot of people do. I don’t like to heat up my marshmallow. I like a more softer, more more Hard Graham cracker. I don’t I don’t like the taste of like burnt food So I don’t I like like a gently brown gently toasted but still warm marshmallow But definitely a nice honey graham graham cracker Hershey’s bar on top with a nice Marshmallow is perfect.

[00:31:47] I don’t like it burnt. I don’t like it to catch on fire. I just like it lightly toasted, but still enough to be able to pull it apart and still taste delicious.

[00:31:56] Sheryl: Well, thanks for joining us today.

[00:31:58] Hailey: Thank you.

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