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Hearts of Gold – Ep122 Amira Ismail

Hearts of Gold – Ep122 Amira Ismail

[00:00:00] Walter: The hearts of gold podcast is brought to you by the grow and share network produced by off the Walter media ,

[00:00:11] Sheryl: Welcome to hearts of gold today. We have Amira with us. Hi.

[00:00:16] Amira: Hi.

[00:00:17] Sheryl: Can you tell us about your Girl Scout Gold Award project?

[00:00:20] Amira: For sure. My Gold Award, I created a three day program called Make You Listen.

[00:00:25] It was overall to inspire and to get youth involved in civic engagement opportunities, but also political campaigns regardless of their political party. So that’s like a good, good sentence to wrap up my Gold Award. What inspired your project? So I’ve been involved in various of different campaigns since I was 14, 13.

[00:00:48] So being that young and the political landscape is not easy, especially when you’re working with people 15, 20, 25 years older than you, and you’re just, you’re just there, like you don’t really know the vocabulary that they’re using. You don’t really know how to navigate these weird emotions that you’re having because you’re working with people so much older than you, and there’s not.

[00:01:07] Anyone else that’s your age, they’re talking about grad school and I’m talking about going to eighth grade, right? So it’s really, really interesting how it works. So that’s ultimately what inspired me. I mean, there was like a life altering event in 2021 where I was treated unfairly on a campaign and that really, really pushed my way to make, to pave the way better for other people that just wanna join campaigns.

[00:01:32] Sheryl: So what kind of involvement did you have in campaigns prior to being able to vote?

[00:01:38] Amira: I mean, I still can’t vote. I’m still 17, unfortunately, but I am pre registered, so that’s a plus. But yeah, at first I started off with Citywide during COVID. They had an application out, and I was like, okay, cool. 13 once I applied, I was 14 when I actually started doing it.

[00:01:55] It was just kind of getting people out to vote, especially in 2020 when it was COVID and people didn’t know how to vote because no one wanted to wait online. And it was just really awkward situation. So we were like, guys, there’s other options like this, this and that. So that was basically just my volunteering role, just getting people to know how to vote.

[00:02:12] And I think that was. The very first time I realized the power of my voice where it’s like these people that these family friends have known me my whole life and still look at me as if I’m still in kindergarten, actually were like, Oh, shoot, she might know something. So it was a very, it was a very important thing.

[00:02:27] So, yes, I started off as a volunteer. So I volunteered for various campaigns over the years. And then I became. field organizer, meaning that I am actually on the ground and talking to folks, but I’m getting paid for it, which kind of like really sparked my thing. Like, oh wow, I could get paid for the stuff I like doing.

[00:02:44] It was really cool. Cause I just like talking to people about like what they care about, especially if they’re my neighbors. Just seeing. What’s up in the world? Why, why are you thinking the way you do? And how can we help? So

[00:02:56] Sheryl: what were some of the components of your gold award project to inspire others to take action?

[00:03:01] Amira: It was a three day program, meaning each session was an hour long, and I was very committed to making that time commitment where they would only come on zoom for an hour because people have busy lives. People have very busy lives and people did like it. We marketed and stuff, but they’re also like taking a chance on coming here.

[00:03:19] So you had to make that first session really, really impressionable and really, really great for them just so they could come back the next two days. So components were literally making the curriculum, which took most of my hours. Council says I have 99. 5 hours, but I’m going to say I have a hundred or more that It was just creating the curriculum that took so much of my hours and I, I, I like creating the curriculum.

[00:03:42] It was, it was unique because there wasn’t anything like it. So I was kind of really going on my own and then using other resources from other places to like fit in the puzzle pieces.

[00:03:51] Sheryl: What did you learn during your project about the Gold Ward process that you didn’t know beforehand?

[00:03:56] Amira: I first learned how to use GoGold and how amazing that process is.

[00:04:01] Using it was definitely Like a learning point you had to figure it out. I remember at like 2 in the morning one day. I was really bored. I was just playing around the website so I know what to do and I go into the steps and all that using Google was my biggest thing. It was also thankfully like I don’t counsel.

[00:04:19] We have Marlinda. She’s she works for counsel. She does like our gold award. like highest awards basically and so she helped me during my silver so she helped me during my gold and she was like amazing with that and just like walking me through the process because i really didn’t know anything i’m the first girl me and this one other girl who were in the same year we both were our first to earn a gold award so we had Actually, no idea what we were doing, but it worked out so.

[00:04:42] Sheryl: What was your biggest challenge during your project and how did you overcome it?

[00:04:46] Amira: How do I get people to trust me enough to sign up and actually believe I’m a real person? And I’m having to zoom at a certain time. That one was hard. It was just because, you know, there’s a lot of untrust in the world. And I see why I have untrust sometimes, right? But it’s also like, yeah, I promise my Girl Scout, we’re just going to go on Zoom, like what’s going to happen on Zoom, right?

[00:05:07] So it was just that, just getting people to sign up was difficult, but it got easier over time when like other people were spreading the word, and they saw the flyers more, and then so on and so forth. So just creating your first base to go off of was hard

[00:05:21] Sheryl: You talk about the flyers that you had and the word of mouth.

[00:05:25] How did you spread the word about your Zoom meetings?

[00:05:28] Amira: Every other person my age, I, they use social media, so we have an Instagram account called Make U Listen, and The U in it is actually like the letter U instead of Y O U, and I, I feel like that was a good choice because I was like, Cause Make U Listen is just such a weird name, like, what do you mean make you listen?

[00:05:47] My friend was like, okay, but like why don’t you say make me listen? No, because it’s just like, you, so it holds everyone accountable rather than one person, because if you hold one person accountable, you might make them feel bad, and that’s so mean. I don’t want anyone to feel like that. So, it says, make.

[00:06:01] You listen as in, okay, shoot, let me listen to this person cause they want me to listen, I guess. So yeah, social media was a big factor. Our, our council does like grants for like for gold awards. So I use that to like market Instagram has a cool marketing feature and it was really funny cause I was at a program once upon a time and I was talking about my gold award and non Girl Scout related setting.

[00:06:24] And they were like, Oh yeah, I saw that ad. I’m like, Oh, so they’re working. Yay. So, yeah, so, so Instagram was my main point.

[00:06:33] Sheryl: Who was on your team and how did you guys interact?

[00:06:36] Amira: My team really consisted of one of my closest Girl Scout, best friends, . Her name is Erin. She is two years older than me, meaning she already graduated.

[00:06:47] And she went through this process before she had a pod. She made a podcast where she would ask 79. It was literally called 79 questions where she would just ask questions through inspir inspirational woman about. You know, what they do. How can they inspire other girls? And it was just really cool.

[00:07:00] So I just, I used her as a, as a point where, Hey, I can’t email Marlinda right now, but you can help me. So she was on my team. She would really push me and, and make sure I was on track. Even like if I would get distracted with something else, she’s like, I know you’re free right now. Go work on your gold. So it was, so she was definitely a huge support system.

[00:07:21] I’m very. Involved in like old council activities. I’m Trevor. So literally everyone I counsel every time I have a chance, they’re always like a mirror your goal. What about it? And I’m just like, oh, okay, I guess we’re talking about this now. So just talking to anyone at any point and getting advice from.

[00:07:40] These people who either have done their gold or helped other people do the gold. It’s super inspirational. So that’s my team, I guess, in a nutshell.

[00:07:49] Sheryl: You have mentioned a couple of times how involved you are with your council. Can you tell us about the different aspects of ways that you’ve worked at the council level?

[00:07:58] Amira: Obviously, just going to events, meeting new people is obviously a big part of. Being involved at council, but also we have the leadership institute, which is a, it’s just a program during the school year where every Saturday for, it depends varying on the year, but for four weeks or for six weeks you have these take action seminars where you go in person or online for a full day.

[00:08:25] And you learn from different partners about like different tracks. So there’s usually three tracks again, varying on the year, but usually the distinct, like the ones that usually stay are like STEM. So usually we code or yeah, you just, you just code, use it depends on your level. So I know ambassadors make a video game or, and seniors make, I think a.

[00:08:44] App on their phone, and then the cadets I believe they make a website. So that’s them. And then we have advocacy, which I have always been a part of advocacy. Again, just knowing how to advocate for community this year for the ambassador track and a few years prior, we partnered with an organization to like actually make our own campaigns.

[00:09:05] And how do I market myself if I want to ever run for office? And then we have. the business and entrepreneurship track, which I did my first year as a cadet. And that was really amazing because it’s just like, how does Shark Tank work? What do you mean you want 15% equity and how does that make any sense?

[00:09:20] And then, yeah, and then, and then sometimes what came in and out was like the environmental track, which I did when I was a senior over Zoom during COVID, it was, Just really how the environment leave no trace just talking about it. I’m a CIT up at camp. Well, no, I’m a junior counselor now, but Up at camp.

[00:09:36] So I love nature and I always go out and explore. I think that’s one of my very young hobbies but yeah, I could go on for about this forever. I just created our first ever girl advisory board So I’m very excited about that. Applications are open and they’re going to close in two weeks. And yeah, so I run my troops Instagram account.

[00:09:56] So I was just on their account, like looking at what other girls councils are doing. And then I saw like this thing from some council was like, Hey, join the girl advisory board. And I’m like, why don’t we have this? So I was like searching and we don’t. And I was like, okay, this, this is not fair. This kind of sucks.

[00:10:11] So In like 2019, I was at an event, and I went to our CEO, Meredith, lovely, lovely woman, and I was like, hey, can I pick your brain for a minute, and I told her about the idea, and she immediately, immediately loved it, because at her home council in Maine, she did the same thing, and she, and she incorporated her own girl advisory board into the council’s governance, so she was like, yes, let’s, let’s talk about it, and then that was 2019, and then COVID hit, so it kind of pushed back a little scheduling, so But I was in her email box like every other day.

[00:10:41] So we got a meeting together and on zoom and honestly, if set for like 2021, 2022, like every other week we were on zoom, just trying to figure out like how this works and how we could present it to the board and how, how does a girl advisory board work? And how does governance work and bylaws and all of that fun stuff.

[00:11:01] So in November of 2022, I. Went to a board meeting. First ever board meeting of my life. It was very nerve wracking, but obviously all lovely women and I told them, Hey, this is the idea we have. I had a cute little presentation wrapped up and I was just telling them for a good half an hour why we need this and why if they don’t approve this, it’s going to be damaging to our Girl Scouts and it passed unanimously.

[00:11:25] So, so I’m glad. I mean, a lot of. Board members came up to me, they’re like, I didn’t know why we didn’t have this beforehand. Thank you so much. And I was like, yes, you are welcome. So it honestly just takes a girl voice to put it through. And like I’m just very happy that that went through finally last month before convention last month we sent out applications and application process is long and kind of hard, but same time it’s for good reason.

[00:11:50] We also, we have such a broad council with so many Girl Scouts from all over the place. So it’s just really good and just really inspiring to see because we honestly want girls from all different boroughs and all different troops and all different backgrounds. So it’s really, really important for us to get that through.

[00:12:10] And yeah, that’s a little bit. And I was like an intern for Girl Scouts also in the summers last summer, the summer before that. So that’s like a little bit of my history.

[00:12:20] Sheryl: And when you were an intern, if I’m remembering correctly, you created a patch program, correct? Yes. Can you tell us about that and what went into creating that program?

[00:12:29] Amira: So my first year as an intern of summer of 2021, 2022, summer of 2021 we. We were called the Digital Leadership Interns, which means that they had, GSUSA just had a partnership with Instagram where they would make a digital leadership patch for, badge, sorry, for all the, all the levels. And we were assigned to help with that and to really give in our voices into like what we want to see, what we don’t want to see.

[00:12:53] So we saw like the first, first few drafts of it. And we honestly just picked and choose what we want to see, what we don’t want to see. And I think it was about 12 interns, 10 interns, and we all, we were all. Paired in two and just like picked on like, what, what level do you want to go to? I always love cadets.

[00:13:11] I love cadets so much. So I, me and my partner, we did the cadet get cadet digital leadership badge. And that was really inspiring to see because like we literally, finalized version. I mean, we had like some rough drafts put in, but we like, you know, arranged it, saw what we liked. So we, what we didn’t like, we talked to our DEIRJ board at the time and made sure that everything that we had was inclusive and inclusive language that we had to use.

[00:13:36] That was really important to see that Girl Scouts was taking that step. In my second year, last summer, we. Last summer, , we, I, we had to work on our heritage badges for different, like different months. So we were doing that and then I realized that April was free and I was like, okay, interesting. We have a badge, a patch every single month.

[00:13:58] Let’s talk about April. So April is every American Heritage month. So with that, I am Egyptian. So I was just like, oh, okay. Fun. And obviously growing up with Girl Scouts, I didn’t see anyone like me. Or like that looked like me or spoke the same language as I did until I was in my troop, right? I didn’t see anyone on council level.

[00:14:16] So I was like, okay, let’s make this change because I knew there were other Girl Scouts who were also Arab and just didn’t see themselves. Cause I met this lovely Arab troop all the way in Staten Island. That’s like two and a half hours away from where I live in Queens. So it was just really important.

[00:14:30] So I created that. And 2022 and that you know, council has been super supportive. So we’re just waiting for that final push to put it, put it through hopefully before I graduate. But yeah, so that’s two badge guides I did kind of.

[00:14:46] Sheryl: Speaking of your heritage, you’re also involved in Muslim Girl Scouts of Astoria.

[00:14:51] Can you tell us about that group and what you do there?

[00:14:54] Amira: We are the first troop in Queens that is Muslim. So we’re first of our kind, basically. And they started in 2006, the year I was born. So they are 17 years strong and they started out of a mosque in Astoria, Queens, obviously Astoria Astoria has one of the biggest populations of, of Muslims and Arabs in all of Queens and in all of New York City.

[00:15:18] Astoria is known for a little Egypt because. Everyone who lives there is either Arab, as in like, Egyptian, Moroccan, Yemeni, so many other, so many other countries, and also Greek, so it’s a really good, interesting thing to see how our neighbors interact with each other, and like, obviously, like, our Greek neighbors have lived there way before us, so it’s just really cool to see, like, a story, like, it’s heritage and all that, and learn that from them, but also, like, adaptable, you know, because we’ve been there for, I want to say, about 40, 50 years, and like, obviously, our Greek neighbors have been there forever, so it’s really cool to see.

[00:15:49] Thank you. So we met at this mosque just every Saturday and Sunday or, or Sunday right after Saturday, Sunday school. And for me, when I was younger, I was asked this other day, but when I was younger, it was just a place where I could hang out with my friends more. I mean, I just, just, I just wanted my mom was like, Hey, I’m putting in Girl Scouts.

[00:16:09] And I’m like, okay, so and so in here. And she’s like, yeah, all your friends are there. Oh, okay. Cause I think looking back at it, it was because my. My elementary school was predominantly white and I didn’t see anyone that looked like me in it and no one spoke my language. I just had no idea that other Arabs existed until, until my Girl Scout trip and religious school.

[00:16:30] But yeah, so afterwards we, after school, we just went to Girl Scouts, we had the time of our lives, like, no matter what badge we were doing, we just enjoyed it, because I was like, okay, I only see these friends once a week, let’s make it, let’s make it like six hours instead of three, or whatever, so yeah.

[00:16:51] Sheryl: You mentioned that you recently were at Girl Scout Convention. Can you tell us about that experience and what your role was there?

[00:17:00] Amira: I was a delegate for my council, Girl Scouts of Greater New York. So we represent all the five boroughs, Queens, Brooklyn, Manhattan. Staten Island in the Bronx. And we have so many Girl Scouts.

[00:17:12] We are a very densely populated council where we don’t have that much land mass, but we do have a lot of Girl Scouts. So it was really inspiring to see because I’ve never been a delegate. I’ve never been to convention. And it was a learning process, but it was also amazing to see the delegation process.

[00:17:31] In general, I didn’t know parliamentary procedure. I did not know any of this. And it was just meeting new Girl Scouts in line to debate a proposal was really important. I mean, we have a national delegate group chat on Instagram with more than like 20 delegates from all over the country. And we just at the time we were talking about the proposals and just sending memes to each other.

[00:17:54] But now we still keep in touch and we have a zoom planned in for it. You know, a few months from now, just like recap with everyone. And, you know, it was just amazing. I saw Girl Scouts who are my age, right? Who were also going into their senior year of high school. And we bonded over college application season.

[00:18:11] We also bonded about like how it is to be a Girl Scout at our age, because a lot of people are like, wait, you’re 17? I didn’t know Girl Scouts lasted that long. And I’m like, come on now, guys, do better. But yeah, no, it was it was amazing. It was amazing to see. Girl Scouts my age and Girl Scouts from all over the country and all over the world, you know, Girl Scouts overseas had a really good, you know, good presence there, and it was just really good to see, and I have never interacted with any Girl Scout councils other than like New York, New Jersey, possibly, and I had one phone call with the CEO of Girl Scouts of Nations Capital when I was making the Girl Advisory Board, so it was just really Interesting to see.

[00:18:54] Oh, and like, you know, Girl Scouts of Orange County hurt their CEO, but it was just 10, 000 girls in like one big hall. Like, when are you going to see that ever in your lifetime? And it was really inspiring because I, I liked the fact that younger Girl Scouts were there. Since delegation was obviously old older Girl Scouts as in like seniors and ambassadors and just adults.

[00:19:15] But I really liked the fact that the younger Girl Scouts was there. Cause I feel like if I saw that. When I was like 10 years old, as a brownie or as a junior, I would just like, I would be, I mean now I am very passionate about Girl Scouts, but when I was younger, it was obviously a struggle because no one else around me was a Girl Scout other than my troop, and it was just really awkward when growing up because it’s like, yay, I’m a Girl Scout.

[00:19:37] Don’t you only sell cookies? No guys, more than that, but it’s also like, you’re 10 years old, you don’t, I mean, I, I won’t speak for all 10 year olds, but I didn’t really know how to advocate for myself at the time. So it was just getting belittled because of the different activities that I did that I do.

[00:19:51] But now thankfully I could stand up to myself or myself, but yeah, so it was just. Amazing to see all those Girl Scouts in that room.

[00:19:59] Sheryl: Can you give us an insight or two to the actual business meeting, the National Council session, and maybe something that surprised you or something that you will never forget?

[00:20:11] Amira: So we had seven proposals to vote on on the floor, and that took a span of three days. So our first day, I believe we did two proposals. Second day was three? I, no, yeah. No, first day was like three proposals, because I think we finished early. Second day was also three. The last day was just one because that last day was very controversial.

[00:20:31] So that’s why we only did one. But no, it was a very, it was a very productive and made history I believe through that. The council session, it was just, what shocked me was how long the lines get. I was warned. I remember because one of my fellow delegate. She was a girl delegate in like 2005. So she was telling me, Amira, those lines get long.

[00:20:52] If you want to talk, you have to go, you have to, you have to walk there fast. I was like, Oh yeah. Like she’s just overreacting. No, trust me. No. I, for one of the proposals on, for, for two of the proposals, the lines were literally to the back of the room. It was, and that room is big. Like that room definitely has a lot of walking space in there.

[00:21:12] And there was like, I believe like six mics, so, so six or five mics where it was a few for agreeing with the proposal, a few with rejecting it, and then one interrupting mic where you could ask a question, or ask for clarification, or ask for the legal side of all this. One thing that shocked me, I guess, what shocked me but also like impressed me was the amount of girl voices that we heard.

[00:21:40] During the NCS, it was, it was inspiring, honestly, and I just say that as someone who’s also their age, but I know with fellow adult delegates, they were really shocked and amazed by that because supposedly what I heard in other conventions that hasn’t been like that, where the girl delegates speak over and over and over again, more than the adults at times, so I was just happy, but I was also like, this is a true testament to what Girl Scouts is, Girl Scouts who don’t, who aren’t afraid of going up and talking in a room full of more than 1000 people, right?

[00:22:15] So it was it was nerve wracking. I was the first delegate to debate a proposal on the very, very first day. And that was nerve wracking. Like I was shaking, but it was also amazing. Because after I spoke, everyone was like congratulating me and saying thank you. And I’m like, I didn’t do anything. Okay, thanks, guys.

[00:22:34] So it was a really Inspiring process because usually in like settings where it’s like super businessy and not a lot of fun, this is totally opposite. Cause the end day we’re all Girl Scouts. So we did have fun and we did, we did get stuff done, but we also had fun doing it. And I think that’s just. an amazing thing that Girl Scouts brings us together to do that.

[00:22:55] Sheryl: Talk about bringing Girl Scouts together. A big part of Girl Scouts for many is camp. You mentioned that you are a junior counselor. What’s your camp name and what’s your favorite part of camp?

[00:23:07] Amira: So my camp name is Uno. A lot of people ask me is the number of the game, and I say both because it’s really funny to say, but it’s usually a card game.

[00:23:15] I had an old camp name and I really wanted to switch it out because it was very outdated. So I was needing one and I. You know, it’s camp. Everyone cheats at Uno. No one plays by the rules. Everyone has their own rules. Then when you accuse them of not playing by the rules, they’re just like, oh, these are just camp rules.

[00:23:31] Don’t ask me how, but it works. So I beat everyone while they were, you know, playing by their own rules. And I got the name Uno because I was like, you know what? I am the best at Uno, which I have been very humbled by then, since then. But yeah, so my camp name is Uno. And a bunch of other counselors and folks that work at camp like to tease me about where whenever I leave a room, I have to say uno out because it would be really funny and really cringy at the same time.

[00:23:58] So I do that sometimes when I’m with like the brownies or the juniors and they love it. So again, bringing people together. But also just like doing all these activities. My first time I camp I was, I believe, like seven, eight years old. I was in like the third grade and it was my first time ever being in the outdoors like that and being upstate truthfully in a huge, huge, huge place where I could explore.

[00:24:19] So that was. That’s why camp is so important to me because I’m just like, well, if it was that amazing for me right now, the city is 10 times worse than it was when I was eight. So these, these girls really need that opportunity to go explore elsewhere than, you know, Times Square. So I just made it. A really, really, really committed goal to get as many people as we can up there and to like make their experience great when they are up there.

[00:24:45] Last week we had Troop 6000 up there and we also had I think a Troop For All, I forgot their full name, but they were both up there for like, you know, one was on Saturday, one was on Sunday. It was really, really amazing. We asked them how many people have never been to camp and all of them raised their hand and I was like, wow.

[00:25:02] Okay, we’re gonna make your experience great, even though it was only a day trip because we do have construction going up at camp to get a new dining hall. That’s really, really, really nice, but you know, just making their experience unforgettable by making tie dye. How many people did tie dye before?

[00:25:17] No one raised their hand. I’m like, guys, come on now. But yeah, tie dye is also my favorite part of camp and tie dye or archery. Or let’s say I don’t like fishing. Fishing I think is really boring, but hiking. Oh, I love hiking. Hiking is also one of my favorites.

[00:25:31] Sheryl: What are your plans for your future?

[00:25:34] Amira: I still have a year left of high school, so I’m going into my senior year.

[00:25:39] I’m transferring schools this year, so that’ll be nerve wracking. But I’m committed to making it the best year because obviously last year of high school, it’s also very sad because my last summer saying I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m a high school student. So that’s also really sad, but you know, it’s, it’s a new part of my journey, new part of my life.

[00:25:57] So I’m glad to see it happening. Finished college application season, cause that is nerve wracking and horrendous. So I want to go into college for sociology. for my undergrad, and then I also want to get a master’s degree in public policy. Obviously that plan could change once I am in college, but that’s like really what I want to go for.

[00:26:18] I really enjoy lawmaking and legislation aspects of all the technical words that, you know, we see in our normal government to make sure. And honestly, like in the future, I just want to make sure that legislation that gets passed doesn’t belittle the communities that we have here now, especially from being.

[00:26:35] From New York City, quote unquote, the greatest city in the world. It’s just really amazing to see all the communities. Especially because I’m from Queens and Queens is basically the melting pot of the world where you have every single cuisine and every single person ever in front of you. Like, it’s insane.

[00:26:51] Like, that’s why I love When I stand in lines here, it’s very corny and my friends like make fun of me. Like, my friends like yell at me sometimes, stranger danger. But like, if I’m just standing in line for something, I could just start talking to people because everyone has a whole life story and everyone is from somewhere.

[00:27:06] And it’s just amazing to see because it’s like, okay, let’s talk, you know? And if I get a vibe from them, I’m just like, why are you the way you are? And then they just keep on talking about that’s why. That is why.

[00:27:17] Sheryl: Great. Is there anything else you’d like to share with the audience?

[00:27:20] Amira: Don’t give up on whatever you’re working on is a super important person, a super important fact. It’s one thing to have a passion, but it’s another thing to actually commit to it and let it go through. And that’s just a super important part of not only the gold award, but also like any side projects that you have going on. My gold award took me about.

[00:27:41] Three years until completing it and you know, at times I was like, okay, this is way too much. I just like give up and like start a new one, but at the end of the day, I stuck with it and I’m glad and people joke that I have more than one gold award because they’re like the gold advisory board is also a gold award and the patches and this and that and whatever and everything else that I do, but it’s just the matter of committing to it and seeing what you’re passionate about.

[00:28:02] And I also realized that you can’t ask anyone else. What you, what they want your Gold Award to be about, you have to trust your own intuition. Cause like, going into my freshman year of high school, I asked my service unit manager, What should I do for my Gold Award? She was like, I don’t know, whatever you’re passionate about.

[00:28:17] I’m like, I don’t, I’m not passionate about anything. I don’t know what you’re talking about. And then, you know, just sitting through the years where that came up to, so.

[00:28:23] Sheryl: How do you make your s’mores?

[00:28:25] Amira: Burnt marshmallow, easily, I eat vegan marshmallows, so burnt vegan, and they’re so much better than normal, I’m just saying, but burnt vegan marshmallows on two graham crackers and a Harsh Eats bar.

[00:28:38] Sheryl: Well, thanks for joining us today.

[00:28:40] Amira: I appreciate coming on here and talking to y’all.

[00:28:43] Sheryl: Oh, it was lovely. Thank you. Make sure to click follow or subscribe so you always know when new episodes are released. Power your passion and conquer your challenges.

[00:28:54] Walter: Thank you for listening. If you’d like to be on the show to share your story of how you earned your gold award, reach out and send an email to growandshare@outlook.Com.

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